Wednesday, June 14, 2006

Further Thoughts on Evolution and Christianity

Category: Religion and Philosophy

I didn't intend to stir such discussion over my blog entry, but yet am somewhat glad if people are even slightly questioning their evolutionary worldview. So besides remarks about my personal character, I am glad at the intellectual discussion. I've added below to the discussion.


The audience for which I was intending the blog entry was for those who are grounded in their Christian faith and yet believe Darwinian evolution. Most of this class of people states that they have melded the two beliefs together. They do this by stating that the 7 days of creation are not 24-hour days but long eras of time. They feel that this then allows for the time needed for evolution in the Biblical creation story. I wanted to point out that time is not the most important problem when trying to combine Christian belief and evolutionary theory. The 7 days vs. billions of years is not the major problem to resolve. What I believe the more important problem and contradiction to resolve is that of death and suffering's place in history. This is what I believe is the major dilemma. Even if God's 7 days were actually trillions of years of evolutionary processes (I don't believe they are since the terms "morning" and "evening" are used.), death would be an important part of the process of God creating animals, plants and people since part of the evolutionary process includes the "survival of the fittest" and therefore the extinction of the unfit. If God used this type of process to create humans, then God would be to blame for death existing in the human experience.

If some would claim that life merely reproduced over trillions of years without any organisms dying then allowing for the transition of single celled organisms to evolve to complex life forms, then the fossil record would show all created life forms in the same strata of earth until the more recent time when Adam sinned and allowed death to enter the life experience.

For those who claim to be Christians and yet believe that man is not responsible for death entering the human experience in the Fall, then these discussions would seem absurd and not worth the trouble. I am merely pointing out that much Christian doctrine (i.e. pre-fallen paradise, Adam being responsible for death entering humanity, Jesus coming to reverse and destroy the curse of sin and death that Adam had caused) disagrees with the claim that death has always existed from the beginning of life's first existence. Also, if any theist claims that death has been a part of the life-experience from the beginning, then God is the one who is to blame for the existence of death; the Bible clearly opposes this belief. (The enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy; Jesus came to bring abundant life. Death entered by the first Adam's sin, everlasting life entered by the second Adam's (Jesus') sacrifice.)

Does that make sense?

Finally, I know this discussion may seem weird to some. Most people assume that life has always been the way it is today. It's hard to imagine the possibility that there was once a time when people, plants and animals did not die, kill or eat one another. It never really ever occurred to me that there could have been a time when death did not exist on earth. In high school I even wrote a poem about the eternity of death's existence:

A sparrow died last night
while you slept.
I know because the world is the same.

Everyday we die
and never cease to die.
Like a rivers endless flow
it might be better dry,
treasures unhidden then,
but it flows eternally
like death.

Here's a cool Scripture that reminds me of this river of death that covers the world.

Isaiah 25:7-8
7 On this mountain he will destroy
the shroud that enfolds all peoples,
the sheet that covers all nations;

8 he will swallow up death forever.
The Sovereign LORD will wipe away the tears
from all faces;
he will remove the disgrace of his people
from all the earth.
The LORD has spoken.


For those who assume that the way the world is and works presently is the way it has always been in the past, I would ask you to imagine a past time in history when death and suffering did not exist.

For evolutionist...out of mud and struggle and chaos things have gradually been growing more beautiful, complex and maturity. From muck came life; from life came cells, then growing into more complex forms, better and better over time. In an oversimplified way, from monkey to caveman to human. From short lifespan, to longer lifespan as time progresses.

Those who believe in Creation...life was made whole and perfect from the first instant and has since then gradually been in decline. Humans used to not die, then after the fall lived about 900 years, and then gradually came to about 120, then to about 80. Things are getting more unstable over time and we require a Savior and the Saviors kingdom to save us.

One view implies that out of mess and chaos life in the present universe is getting better and better.

The other view states that out of perfect harmony, life is gradually getting more and more unstable.

These views seem as opposite as up is to down.

May this discussion prove helpful in some way I pray.
Currently reading:
The Case for a Creator: A Journalist Investigates Scientific Evidence That Points Toward God
By Lee Strobel
Release date: By 01 March, 2005

Thursday, June 08, 2006

Why Christianity and Evolution are Never Going to be Compatible...Ever...!!!

Category: Religion and Philosophy

In a stroke of what I call genius, this storyline came to mind on the way home.

Why Christianity and Evolution are Never Going to be Compatible...Ever...!!!

A girl asked at Vacation Bible School yesterday. If God loves me then Why did I get taken away from my family into CPS custody? It's the question I hear over and over. If God is real then what about my suffering...??

Well,We ask this question because our school teachers taught us evolution. How do I connect these dots.

1. One... In the Christian worldview, God created a world without death and sickness and suffering. Humans fell and therefore the curse of death came into existence apart from the perfect creation of God.

2. Two...Evolution declares the doctrine that death was used as a natural selector of species to evolve from simple organisms to more complex. Death was from the beginning.

Therefore...A Christian who believes that God used Evolution to create the plants animals and people is stating that 1.God used death from the beginning to create people, 2. The curse of death that God declared to Adam in the garden was irrelevant since people had evolved over millions of dying years over and over again. and most importantly 3. That Jesus cannot return the earth to paradise because God never intended a world without death. In this belief system, death would be the tool and hand of God to better the world.

So, brainwashed millions look at the world and say "why did God allow death." They say this because they are taught that either 1. there is no God and evolution used death to elevate and perfect species or 2. God created a world where death would be the primary tool to create and elevate life therefore making him responsible for all death and cruelty and suffering. After all, this would have been the way life evolved.

As an alternative, the Truth is that God created a perfect world out of nothing. In this world there was no death and suffering. Humans rebelled against God; death and suffering entered the world and Jesus has come to save us from this curse of sin and death. He will finally vanquish death once and for all as the last enemy of God thereby restoring us to the pre-fallen state.

Do not be deceived by evolution into believing That God chose to use Death as his hand and tool to create a perfect world. God is life and death has always been the enemy of God.

Can you see animals ripping each other apart, viruses sickening animals as they die and rot, maggots, early human ancestors breaking bones, dying as evolution uses survival of the fittest to develop life-forms and God then looking at what he had made and calling it Good. This is not what the Bible and Christianity teaches. They are imcompatible. God created a world without sickness, death, carnivors, and predators and the Bible declares a future when all these things will be non-existent.

So why do you children suffer. We are away from God's perfect world and plan. His kingdom is at war with the present kingdom seeking to restore the perfect and destroy the work of the devil (death in all its forms).

Word...

Friday, June 02, 2006

Christian Electronic Underground Pop

Category: Music

Antiphonic is a music store that deals in underground Christian electronic music.

You can listen to music samples. It may seem like ..."umm..why is this Christian?"....ummm...I don't know...why is it not?